Power Of Gratitude – Interview With Pam Grout

What does the power of gratitude have to do with financial wealth? Everybody thinks that abundance is all about financial capital. In this episode, Pam Grout, author of Thank & Grow Richtalks about different forms of abundance and how we can have them all by being in the frequency of joy and gratitude.

When we’re in the frequencies of happiness and love, all things come smoothly.

Key Takeaways

  • When you access the power of gratitude, there are a lot of different ways to feel abundant and to be abundant.
  • The best way to get rich is to access the power of gratitude and get on the frequency of joy and gratitude.
  • Be grateful for everything because there is so much to be thankful for.
  • We’re so focused on all the things that aren’t going right that we forget how much there is to celebrate in our lives.
  • The universe is abundant and intelligent, and it is always trying to interact with us, always trying to bless us.
  • When you’re in the divine buzz, you’re on the gratitude frequency. You will feel led and guided, and magical things happen.
  • Different forms of abundance you can access with the power of gratitude:
  1. Spiritual capital
  2. Creative capital
  3. Social capital
  4. Adventure capital
  5. Alchemic capital
  • The idea that you are serving something bigger than yourself is crucial.
  • Before doing anything in the morning, you set the intention. You say, “Something amazingly awesome is going to happen to me today.”
  • You draw into your life whatever you put your attention on. With the power of gratitude, when you put your attention on looking for blessings and miracles, you’re going to see blessings and miracles.
  • Gratitude is causative energy. The power of gratitude plants seeds that can grow into unlimited abundance.
  • Who we are is love.

Transcription: Power of Gratitude – Pam Grout

Power Of Gratitude

Kamala Chambers

In this episode, we’re going to be talking about the power of gratitude and how gratitude creates wealth.

So excited to have Pam Grout on the podcast today. She is an international best-selling author. She’s written over 18 books. You’re going to see a lot of those on the New York Times Best-Seller List. She was featured in places like CNN Travel, Huffington Post, and People magazine. She is an expert when it comes to the power of gratitude.

It’s amazing to have Pam here today with her new book coming out, Thank & Grow Rich.

Luis Congdon

Welcome to the show, Pam. Are you ready to launch and talk about the power of gratitude?

Pam Grout

I am ready to launch. I am glad to be here. Thanks for having me.

Luis Congdon

I love it. My mom is currently reading your book, Thank & Grow Rich. I’m excited to talk about that.

I’m a big fan of the book. Your book sounds very much like Think and Grow Rich. I love your title, Thank & Grow Rich. Let’s jump into it. I want to know why you chose that title.

Pam Grout

Everybody’s heard of Think And Grow Rich, like you said, and what I say in the book is that the best way to get rich, and I also talk about different kinds of capital than financial capital. Because there are a lot of different ways to feel abundant and to be abundant. I like to share how the power of gratitude can bring you abundance.

Everybody’s heard of Think and Grow Rich. It’s a catchy title.

The Power Of Gratitude And Unabashed Joy

Pam Grout

What I say in the book is you can think all you want, but the best way to get rich is to start thanking it and getting on this frequency of joy and gratitude. When you get on that frequency, then your life just starts working in magical ways.

It’s a good way to get in the now. It’s a good way to start seeing all the beauty, the wonder, and all that surrounds us at all times that we so often forget because we’re so busy following the seven steps to this or the seven steps to that.

It is a take-off on Napoleon Hill‘s book. I call it the subtitles of the 30-Day Experiment in Shameless Gratitude and Unabashed Joy.

In it, I encourage people to be grateful for everything because there is so much to be grateful for.

When we’re so focused on all the things that aren’t going right, we forget how much there is to celebrate in our lives.

Power Of Gratitude

Luis Congdon

What you’re saying is incredibly about the power of gratitude is amazing to me.

I go on all sorts of PR sluice where I’m on a bunch of podcasts, radio shows, and blogs, and I get interviewed a lot, and one of the questions that come up quite often is, “What do achievement and success look like for you? How will you know that you’re successful, Luis?”

My answer is always, “The more that I can feel love, the more that I can feel thankful, and if I feel that, then I am successful. I feel the power of gratitude. Because, at the end of the day, most of us are doing something to get somewhere else.”

A Power Of Gratitude Rampage

Power Of Gratitude

Luis Congdon

We want a great job so that we can be happy. We want more money so that we can buy things. We want those things so that we can be happy.

If I’m in a state of happiness, bliss, and joy, then I’ve achieved the very thing that I’m after, and if I can do all those other things and have more of the things and do more of those other things, that’s great. But if I can’t be happy with that process, then I probably won’t be able to enjoy it.

I had this power of gratitude experience. I went on this gratitude rampage that was about picking throughout the day as many things to be thankful as possible. I did that for a week straight, and something blew up inside me.

I felt just this overwhelming. It’s inexplicable how beautiful I felt, and yet nothing had changed.

My income hadn’t changed. My lack of a partner was when I didn’t have a partner like Kamala. My grades in school because I was in school, hadn’t changed.

Something inside blew up in me. I was living the power of gratitude. I’ve never felt that happy, truthfully. I never had that level of happiness, and I know that I can consistently go back to something like it or a level of happiness like that. It was incredible, and it was because I went on this gratitude rant.

I believe what you’re saying about the power of gratitude is true. There are so many of us going after a goal, and we get the goal, but it’s not enough. We go to the next goal and the next goal, and so on, but somehow, we’re still dissatisfied.

The Power Of Gratitude Frequency

Power Of Gratitude

Pam Grout

Yes. That’s true.

You’ve accomplished all those goals you mentioned earlier. You got this beautiful partner. You got this fantastic job and all these different things now.

Probably, a lot of it had to do with the fact that you did get on that gratitude frequency because when you get on that frequency, everything in your life changes.

When you get on that gratitude frequency and access the power of gratitude, all those things you were trying to get before come to you.

There’s this abundant and intelligent universe out there that is always trying to interact with us, always trying to bless us with the power of gratitude. But because we’re on this other frequency, the frequency of “Oh, something’s wrong. Life sucks, and then you die.”

When you’re on those kinds of frequencies, you miss this universe’s intelligence. The universe can’t get through to you.

Another aspect of the power of gratitude is the Divine Buzz. When you’re in this Divine Buzz, it sounds like you were when you were on that rampage of gratitude. It rewrites and changes everything. It rewrites your neural chemistry.

It makes you feel differently, and anything you’ve ever wanted, manifestation or whatever, starts coming to you in really easy ways. You will be led and guided. It’s just this remarkable magical thing that can happen.

All of us can experience magical things once we start looking for all the things that are going right instead of all the things that are going wrong.

The 5 Capitals Of The Power Of Gratitude

Power Of Gratitude

Kamala Chambers

I’m with you there. If you look at the whole universe, it’s nothing but vibrational frequencies and what we are deciding to entrain to. Thank you so much for that. What a beautiful gift that you’ve given us all to look at the world that way at this moment.

One thing I love to hear from you is these different forms of abundance. There’s so much more than financial wealth when it comes to the power of gratitude. I love to hear more about that from you.

Pam Grout

Yeah.

I divided up into five different kinds of capital. Everybody thinks abundance or wealth is Financial Capital, but again, as Luis was saying, a lot of times, you can have that, and you may not even be that happy.

The five kinds of capital that I encourage people to amass in this book start with Spiritual capital. With the power of gratitude, it’s easy to access these. That’s the unseen connection that we have to all the world and that we’re all one. That’s where real joy and happiness come from.

Creative Capital is where all financial capital comes from. Everything starts as an idea. When we use our imagination, it comes up with Creative Capital. Every screenplay that has been written started as Creative Capital. Every book that’s been written is creative capital. Every business starts with Creative Capital. That’s how it gets started. Now that’s the power of gratitude.

Next is Social Capital, that’s where we make our connections with other people, and that’s so important. That sense of belonging and doing something bigger than yourself.

It’s easy to get into this “Me, me, me, me” thing.

What brings us the most joy and happiness is when we are serving the planet.

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Pam Grout

When we are falling, what I call your “Beeps”, are those things that are calling out to you and wanting you to follow.

The next aspect of the power of gratitude is Adventure Capital. You just look at life as an adventure because there are so many people out there who always look at the bottom line or doing this but there are so many great adventures to take.

The things that I like and the things I want to do is have exciting adventures. I do a lot of traveling. I’m a travel writer as well, so I’m always trying to collect experiences more than anything else.

Adventures are important, and they don’t even have to be like foreign traveling. It can be an adventure of walking down your street and opening your eyes and looking at all that’s there because we miss most of everything.

The final type of capital that you access with the power of gratitude is what I call Alchemic Capital, and that’s like alchemy. It’s the ability to change things, and we all have the potential to make changes in our lives. That’s the fifth capital that I talked about in the book.

I have like an earnings report sheet, and I had people, “Where do you think you rated in these five kinds of capital when you began?” And then I have them reassess after the 30 days are over, and I have them do this program. This all plays into the power of gratitude.

I’ve got 27, what I call party games, in there because, again, I think people take things too seriously, so who wants to do exercise? I’ve got 27 party games, but the only one required in the book is this 30-day thing that I have, and it’s my A.A. 2.0 Program.

The Power Of Gratitude To Find Balance

Power Of Gratitude

Pam Grout

I don’t know if many of your listeners have heard me speak before, but it’s something I talk about a lot, and I can certainly share that with your listeners if you think they might be interested.

Kamala Chambers

I’d love to hear that, and just the concept of all these different forms of capital is so powerful. What a beautiful way to look at things because if we can measure what level of abundance we have, we’re not focusing it all on the money.

Like Luis and I, we travel a lot too. We travel half the year. That, to me, is the richest I can feel in my life, and I think that we can look at all these different forms of capital and see where we’re out of balance even.

Pam Grout

Exactly.

So yeah, like I said, there’s a little sheet, and you rate yourself on a 1 to 10 on each of those kinds of capital. And see how the power of gratitude plays into all this.

The other thing that I think is so important about the power of gratitude is the idea that you are serving something bigger than yourself.

A lot of people do think of financial capital when there’s just so much more. When you have these other kinds of capital, the financial capital is almost like a side effect. It’s a side effect of having these other forms of capital in place.

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Luis Congdon

That, to me, is the best way to have that financial capital, and it’s a side effect, or it’s part of a bigger picture and not just a thing that is secluded and just this own little experience of “Oh wow, I’ve got an influx of money” but, there aren’t these other aspects that are also really rich and plump within my kind of quadrants as you’re putting it.

I wanted to add something there that you said because when we talk about capital, interesting.

As many of you guys already know, I used to teach the work of Dr. John and Julie Gottman in relationships and marriage education. One of the things that they talked about with the power of gratitude is a positive bank account of emotional investment in the relationship.

I forgot the specific word right now. It’s been so long since I talked about the power of gratitude in relationships, but basically, we have positive emotions in our relationship that allow us to have a healthy and thriving relationship. In our marriage, with our kids, or friends, that’s another kind of bank account too.

Pam Grout

Exactly. That falls into the social capital, but that’s so important when it comes to the power of gratitude.

Luis Congdon

So, you wanted to talk a little bit about your A.A. 2.0 System. Can you tell me a little bit about that?

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A 30-Day Experiment On The Power Of Gratitude

Power Of Gratitude

Pam Grout

Yeah. This 30-day experiment is what I have people do in this program for 30 days, and it is so simple to practice the power of gratitude.

The reason I call it A. A .2.0, you’ve heard of the first AA. It’s a 12-step program. Well, I’m all about smooth and easy, so this is a simple program that has two steps.

  • Step 1. You get up every morning, and the first thing you do before you pull off your covers, brush your teeth, or before anything you just set the intention.

You say, “Something amazingly awesome is going to happen to me today.” You practice the power of gratitude. That’s where I got the AA. The “Amazingly Awesome.”

You get up, and you set that intention. It’s like, “You know what? This is what I’m looking for today. I’m going to have an amazingly awesome day.”

  • Step 2. This action goes back to the power of gratitude. I have what I call “My possibility posse,” and these are five friends that every day, I text them five blessings from the day before.

A lot of people create gratitude lists to practice the power of gratitude. But the thing that’s unique about this is every day, it has to be something different. You cannot repeat.

“Oh, I love my career.” “I’m going to get to travel the world.” “I love my dog.” That kind of thing, but no. This has to be something different.

So every day, I’m like, “Luis and Clark, man, I’m out there. I am scouting for those blessings” You do find.

You call into your life whatever you put your attention on.

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The Power Of Gratitude To Create Magic

Pam Grout

So if you put your attention upon looking for blessings and miracles, what do you think you’re going to see? Blessings and miracles.

That’s the little program, and it’s super simple, but it just changes your focus on how you’re looking at life, and it changes everything. You see this happen with the power of gratitude.

Kamala Chambers

There’s this little phrase that we used to say when I taught energy medicine. “Where your intention goes, your energy flows,” and I think that is right for what you bring back to you as well.

Power Of Gratitude

Kamala Chambers

I know when I’m in a good space or when I witness people in a happy space, putting out intentions for good things to come to them, it happens. Magic can happen every single day of our lives if we open ourselves up to it. Magic happens when we access the power of gratitude.

Pam Grout

Right. Well, it is going on every single day of our lives, but we don’t see it a lot.

Kamala Chambers

We’re not paying attention to it.

Pam Grout

Exactly.

We live in this infinite field of potentiality. I call it “Field of Infinite Potentiality” in my other book, E-Squared, the one which became a huge international best-seller.

We live in The Field of Infinite Potentiality, but all we see is the waves that we’ve collapsed.

Here’s unlimited, which means endless. We collapse like this finite little thing, and we think this is the world.

All of us have our little picture, our little reality, our little hologram of what we see out there when there’s so much more possible.

Finding The Power Of Gratitude When You’re At Rock Bottom

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Pam Grout

I think the biggest thing that I like people doing is when you get in this frequency of joy and gratitude, you’re just open to so many more things. With the power of gratitude, there are so many more possibilities out there because they are infinite. That means there is no to it, and our little pea brains have a hard time even grasping the concept of infinity, but truly, that is what’s available to us.

Luis Congdon

What I love about what you’re saying is very reminiscent of when my life fell apart. I felt like I had hit rock bottom. I forgot all about the power of gratitude. My relationship ended, my job ended, my unemployment ended, and my unemployment income ended.

I just didn’t have anything, and I was sleeping on my friend’s couch. I’ve always been the successful one in my friendship with this particular friend.

And so, sleeping on his couch for me and getting to this place was rock bottom. I couldn’t imagine going any lower, and I went through a period where I felt awful about my life. Like, “Man, why am I here? This sucks. This doesn’t feel good. This is terrible. I’m so broke, and I can’t find a job. I don’t know what I’m going to do with myself.”

You know where that road ends up pleading, and maybe sometimes we need that. But, I ended up going to this place where maybe I needed that so that part of me could burn up because I eventually got to a place where it was like, “I can’t do this anymore. I can’t wake up” and have this messages going off in my head to myself. I had to get back to the power of gratitude.

Putting The Power Of Gratitude To Practice

Power Of Gratitude

Luis Congdon

I can’t even tell myself that this is the reality that I’m living and continue this until tomorrow. So I have to do something, and it has to start today.

I started doing these practices where I’d wake up and I was lying there on his couch. I’d wake up, my eyes would open.  I close my eyes again, and I would say, “I’m thankful for today. Money has flown in like never before, and I am incredibly grateful and appreciative for all the miracles that have come true.”

Then I just go through my day. Just brushed my teeth, got ready for the day, and then at some point, later in the day, I had this idea. This is the first time I did it. I was like, “What if for right now, just for the heck of it, I’m going to feel and pretend that I just received $10,000? I’ve never had that before. Most I’d ever made in a year was like 50,000 in a year working full time if not more, but I’m just going to pretend right now that this just happened.”

I closed my eyes, and then I opened it. Opened my eyes and just started walking as if that had happened. Like, “Oh, how does that feel? Oh, my God. I feel so grateful for this, ” and things dramatically shifted in less than a month.

Out of the blue, somebody called me and hired me for a job that paid more money than I’d ever made, and it was an incredible job.

The Power Of Gratitude Changes Your Entire Life

Luis Congdon

Soon after, Kamala came into my life, and she whisked me away from my job. We got a chance to start a business, and all these different things started to happen.

I feel that the pivotal shift was my desire to start being thankful for what I had and being even thankful for experiences that hadn’t come yet. That’s the power of gratitude at work.

Pam Grout

Exactly.

It’s causative energy.

Gratitude is causative energy. It plants seeds that grow into unlimited abundance.

Power Of Gratitude

Pam Grout

Again, it puts you on a frequency where you’re connected to all that.

The truth is, we’re connected to all the abundance we could ever want, but because we’ve collapsed the wave and we’re believing the “what was me” tale, we do not see it. It’s just not materially manifested in our lives. The power of gratitude brings in abundance.

Once you get on that other frequency, it shows up, and it’s there. It just comes out of the wazoo. It’s amazing.

Like this woman that I wrote about today on my blog. She was implementing the power of gratitude. She had been doing the Law of Attraction. She said she had some success, but once she started just really focusing on gratitude.

She was trying to find a job, and she said she just had this hit not to look for the job but to just really start focusing on all of her blessings and then all of a sudden, she just gets this hit “Go walk down Web Street.”

After she sent out all of her resumes, she walked down Web Street. She ends up walking to this jewelry store. It ended up being this woman hired her to be a marketing director. It’s like this perfect job, lots of money.

Get On The Frequency Of the Power Of Gratitude

Power Of Gratitude

Pam Grout

Because she had gotten on this power of gratitude for three days, that’s all she was doing, she was thinking about all she was grateful for, and this job just fell into her lap.

This intuition “Go walk down Web Street.” That’s what happened, and that’s exactly where the job was. That’s what I mean.

This interaction is there. The perfect answer to whatever is troubling you is right there once you get on that frequency, then it can speak to you.

Kamala Chambers

Yes. Absolutely.

I’m so grateful for you, Pam, for the work that you’re doing and the work that you’re putting out there to the world so we can build the power of gratitude. As a species, I think gratitude can be the birthplace of love.

I would love to hear from you. Is there anything that you want to make sure that we all walk away with today? Any message that is in your heart that you want to share?

The Power Of Gratitude Is About Love

Pam Grout

The power of gratitude is about love. We are all loved so much, and we are loved. Who we are is love. At any time we’re not acting out of love, we might be judging something, or we’re not grateful. We’re actually in stress.

We love wanting to give and wanting to express our gifts.

So when we’re in that state, we’re joyful and happy. But anytime we’re not, we’re judging this or that’s not going right, our body’s under stress. Just to realize how much we are all loved and how much we are loved.

That’s who we are and how much this universe wants to interact with us and wants to shower us with blessings and beautiful things.

Kamala Chambers

We’ve been here with Pam Grout, talking about the power of gratitude. It’s been so fantastic to have you on the show.

Thank you all for being here, everyone.

Pam Grout

Thank you.

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